Errors of Catholicism/Ecumenical Ties
READING TIME: 18 MINUTES
The following are the notes to the discussion found at this link (https://www.facebook.com/tammy.cheetham.77/videos/vb.100014691523242/189880208178362/?type=3&thea) for anyone who would like to study the subject more in depth:
Very often today when we read articles concerning Catholics they are referred to as Christians. Catholicism is often considered to merely be another denomination of Christianity. But, we clearly and emphatically want to state that Catholicism is a false, pagan, Babylonian religious system based on the traditions of men. In stating this we want to make it clear we are not against Catholics, but against the system of Catholicism. Catholics have the following beliefs that are not mentioned in the New Testament: the papacy, worship/adoration of Mary (the immaculate conception of Mary, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the assumption of Mary, Mary as co-redemptrix and mediatrix), petitioning saints in heaven for their prayers, apostolic succession, the ordinances of the church functioning as sacraments, infant baptism, confession of sin to a priest, or the office of priest at all, purgatory, indulgences, or the equal authority of church tradition and Scripture. So, we can see these are beliefs which form a completely different religious system.
In light of these different beliefs in Christianity and Catholicism it has been odd to watch so many leaders of major ministries and churches flock to Rome to visit the pope within the last three years. We’ve seen Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, James Robison, John Arnott, and Louie Giglio to name the main ones. And, we are being conditioned to see Catholics appear on stage at NAR events, and also with evangelicals. It’s all becoming a huge religious melting pot. For example, we have seen the inclusion of a Catholic track at Mike Bickle’s IHOP OneThing conference for the past two years. At this event last December , Matt Maher, a popular worship leader who is Catholic, stated the following: “My wife, Kristin; she’s not Catholic. We go to two churches on Sunday when I’m in town. We go to a non-denominational church in the morning and then I go to mass. We’re registering our kids, they’re gonna go to Catholic school. We’re gonna raise our kids Catholic. We’re trying to figure all this out. It’s like a whole new reality.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVmJhb0UuF4&list=PL4S19ubs2BxdgP4XrvSUWHVuTe4tM-LI7&index=7 (at the 49:20 mark)
(And, we can say this whole new reality has just slipped in under the radar and most people are not paying attention. We have to say such a melding is not possible because of the differences of beliefs. You, know we’ve seen two political figures, and I am sure there are more, who have referred to themselves as evangelical Catholics. One is Vice-President Mike Pence (http://religionnews.com/2016/07/14/5-faith-facts-on-mike-pence-a-born-again-evangelical-catholic/) and the other is former Governor of Louisiana, Bobby Jindal (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bobby-jindal-raised-hindu-uses-christian-conversion-to-woo-gop-base-for-2016-run/2014/05/12/c446fa34-d989-11e3-8009-71de85b9c527_story.html?utm_term=.4cdd6accc8bd) .
At the Azusa 2016 event which was held in April of last year, we saw Matteo Calisi, Catholic leader and founder of United in Christ, an organization that strives for ecumenism between Christians and Catholics, kiss the feet of Lou Engle. Lou Engle is a major NAR player and leader of The Call. Then, Lou Engle kissed Calisi’s feet in an act of reconciliation between Christians and Catholics. (https://www.christiantoday.com/article/christian.evangelist.lou.engle.catholic.leader.matteo.calisi.kiss.each.others.foot.in.symbolic.act.of.reconciliation/83722.htm)
Engle had specifically invited Catholics as we can tell by the words he spoke in a promotional video: “We just want to welcome our Catholic brothers and sisters from the Archdiocese of Los Angeles to gather together to pray. Come join your brothers and sisters at the Memorial Coliseum believing for a move of unity and an outpouring of the Holy Spirit.” (http://christiannews.net/2016/04/10/lou-engle-of-the-call-prostrates-himself-kisses-foot-of-catholic-leader-as-act-of-reconciliation/)
Then, at Together 2016, held last July at the National Mall in Washington, DC, we see another example of Matt Maher leading worship at an ecumenical event. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pc2aPsDbU4)
Lou Engle and Matteo Calisi also made an appearance at this event. Calisi had this to say, “When Catholics, evangelicals, and Pentecostals worship together, our differences don’t go up to heaven. We’re one in Christ. When we announce the name of Jesus, that He is the one Lord and Savior, we are attracted to unity. And we, even Catholics, have come to bring this testimony.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhIE87wKk0E (at the 13:39 mark)
Now, I would to discuss some of the activities and accords that have brought us to this place where evangelicals and Catholics and others feel so free to associate. There were ecumenical teachings and meetings before this time, but I would like to start with Vatican II.
Vatican II
According to the Britannica Encyclopedia, the Second Vatican Council, which was held from 1962–65, was announced by Pope John XXIII, as a means of spiritual renewal for the church and as an occasion for Christians separated from Rome to join in search for reunion. There were sixteen documents written at this council and the second one is entitled “Decree on Ecumenism.” (http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html)
This decree on ecumenism states in the introduction that, “In recent times more than ever before, the Lord has been rousing divided Christians to remorse over their divisions and to a longing for unity. Everywhere large numbers have felt the impulse of this grace, and among our separated brethren also there increases from day to day the movement, fostered by the grace of the Holy Spirit, for the restoration of unity among all Christians. This movement toward unity is called "ecumenical." Those belong to it who invoke the Triune God and confess Jesus as Lord and Savior, doing this not merely as individuals but also as corporate bodies.” (Here we see those who say they confess Jesus as Lord and Savior, but the beliefs and practices they have added mean they believe and present another Jesus and another gospel).
This decree goes on to state: “The results will be that, little by little, as the obstacles to perfect ecclesiastical communion are overcome, ALL CHRISTIANS WILL BE GATHERED IN A COMMON CELEBRATION OF THE EUCHARIST, INTO THE UNITY OF THE ONE AND ONLY CHURCH, which Christ bestowed on his Church from the beginning.” (This is obviously a statement straight from Satan’s playbook because true believers will not celebrate the mass and the Catholic Church is not the one and only true church. True believers do not accept transubstantiation and never will.)
The Decree told Roman Catholics in clear and unambiguous terms: “In certain special circumstances, such as in prayer services for unity and during ecumenical gatherings, it is allowable, indeed desirable, that Catholics should join in prayer with their separated brethren. Such prayers in common are certainly a very effective means of petitioning for the grace of unity, and they are a genuine expression of the ties which even now bind Catholics to their separated brethren.” (You know, it is only since Vatican II that those who are not Catholic have been referred to as separated brethren. Instead of unleashing the horrors of the Spanish Inquisition, the Catholic Church is now using diplomacy and playing nice in an attempt to influence people to return to Rome. And, the evangelicals are aiding this plan. For example, a man named Tom Peterson wrote a book called “Catholics Come Home.” Well, Rick Warren has endorsed this book and appeared in a promotional video for it. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=duJxlbDnLXI) Of course, that shouldn’t surprise us seeing he referred to Pope Francis as “our pope” when he was being interviewed by Raymond Arroyo for a program on EWTN (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igNCUw1adIw).
Now, I would like to talk about a group called the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity. The origins of this group are associated with the Second Vatican Council which met intermittently from 1962–1965 as I already mentioned. Pope John XXIII wanted the Catholic Church to engage in the contemporary ecumenical movement so he established something called the "Secretariat for Promoting Christian Unity" in June of 1960 as one of the preparatory commissions for Vatican II. The Secretariat invited other Churches and World Communions to send observers to Vatican II. In June of 1988 Pope John Paul II changed the Secretariat into the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity.
This Council has a twofold role:
The promotion within the Catholic Church of an authentic ecumenical spirit.
To develop dialogue and collaboration with the other Churches and World Communions.
(So, anytime we see ecumenical activity involving Catholics, this group has been involved. The following links have descriptions concerning the Pontifical council’s work with other major church groups. (http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/index.htm) (http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/angl-comm-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_19660324_paul-vi-ramsey_en.html)
The following information concerns discussions between Anglicans and Catholics -
Here is an excerpt from the Common Declaration by Pope Paul VI and the Archbishop of Canterbury Dr. Michael Ramsey from March of 1966. “At the conclusion of their meeting they give thanks to Almighty God Who by the action of the Holy Spirit has in these latter years created a new atmosphere of Christian fellowship between the Roman Catholic Church and the Churches of the Anglican Communion. This encounter of the 23rd of March 1966 marks a new stage in the development of fraternal relations, based upon Christian charity, and of sincere efforts to remove the causes of conflict and to re-establish unity.” (http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/angl-comm-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_20161005_dichiarazione-comune_en.html)
And, this is the COMMON DECLARATION OF HIS HOLINESS POPE FRANCIS AND HIS GRACE JUSTIN WELBY ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY from Oct. 2016:
“Fifty years ago our predecessors recognized the ‘serious obstacles’ that stood in the way of a restoration of complete faith and sacramental life between us. Nevertheless, they set out undeterred, not knowing what steps could be taken along the way, but in fidelity to the Lord’s prayer that his disciples be one. Much progress has been made concerning many areas that have kept us apart. Yet new circumstances have presented new disagreements among us, particularly regarding the ordination of women and more recent questions regarding human sexuality. Behind these differences lies a perennial question about how authority is exercised in the Christian community. These are today some of the concerns that constitute serious obstacles to our full unity. While, like our predecessors, we ourselves do not yet see solutions to the obstacles before us, we are undeterred. We trust in God’s grace and providence, knowing that the Holy Spirit will open new doors and lead us into all truth (cf. John 16: 13).
These differences we have named cannot prevent us from recognizing one another as brothers and sisters in Christ by reason of our common baptism. Nor should they ever hold us back from discovering and rejoicing in the deep Christian faith and holiness we find within each other’s traditions. These differences must not lead to a lessening of our ecumenical endeavours.” (And, by all indications there has not been a lessening of these endeavors at all. Earlier this year Nicky Gumbel, an Anglican priest and administrator of the Alpha Course (itself extremely ecumenical) hosted an ecumenical conference. Here were some of the speakers: Luis Tagle, Catholic archbishop of the Philippines; Jean Vanier, Catholic philosopher, theologian, and humanitarian; Father James, Parish Priest of Saint Benedict Parish, in Canada, and the Founder of JPII Media - a Christian media charity; one of the worship leaders was Matt Maher, mentioned earlier in the discussion. In addition, Mark Batterson, author of The Circle Maker, Priscilla Shirer who starred in War Room and has been involved in contemplative prayer, and John Gray, associate pastor of Joel Osteen’s church all spoke, showing how easily people join up in these ecumenical conferences and events).
Now I would like to discuss a document called Evangelicals and Catholics Together: The Christian Mission in the Third Millennium, published in 1994, and endorsed by some rather prominent representatives of Evangelical Christianity and Roman Catholicism. Here are some of the more well-recognized names of those who signed this document: Chuck Colson of Prison Fellowship Ministries; Bill Bright of Campus Crusade for Christ; and Pat Robertson of the 700 Club. Some of the statements from the document are as follows: “We are Evangelical Protestants and Roman Catholics who have been led through prayer, study, and discussion to common convictions about Christian faith and mission.” “As Christ is one, so the Christian mission is one.” “We together, Evangelicals and Catholics, confess our sins against the unity that Christ intends for all his disciples.” “We affirm together that we are justified by grace through faith because of Christ.” (Now that last statement has been celebrated as a remarkable concession on the part of the Catholic’s, but the real issue under debate between Roman Catholicism and historic evangelicalism which is justification by faith ALONE—is carefully avoided throughout “Evangelicals and Catholics Together.” If they really believed in justification by grace through faith alone they would dispense with all their sacraments, and they certainly have not done that.)
Much of the document focuses on “the right ordering of society”. The longest section, “We Contend Together,” states that “politics, law, and culture must be secured by moral truth”. Therefore the catalog of issues which the document’s signers “contend together” for is made up of religious freedom, right-to-life issues, moral education, parental choice in education, a free-market economy, pro-family legislation, and a responsible foreign policy. (Using social and moral issues as common ground to promote unity, the Vatican believes this ecumenical dialogue will prepare the way for "separated brethren" to return to the "one true church." But, I would have to ask, since when have Christians been called to focus so much time and energy renewing their culture?)
And, then concerning the 20th anniversary of this accord I found this statement by one of the signers, Tom Guarino, professor of theology at Seton Hall University. He made the following troubling remarks: ‘Evangelicals and Catholics’ have deepened our identity as brothers in Christ, discovering, despite our theological differences, important patterns of similarity and union in our fundamental Christian beliefs." On the future of ECT, he wrote: "Proclaiming the gospel in a society that has forgotten its moral foundations will continue to be a significant task of Evangelicals and Catholics Together." He added, "If contemporary culture is to be renewed, it must be led by Evangelicals and Catholics, with their firm commitment to the truth of the gospel." (The truth of the gospel? Really? You know, as with Mormonism, Catholicism also adds to the simplicity of the gospel to such a degree that one truly sees another Jesus, another gospel, and another spirit. There is so much paganism, so much idol worship, but we have evangelicals just totally overlooking these aspects of Catholicism).
Joint Declaration
Now I want to mention another accord called the “Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification.” In this document, signed in 1999, Catholics said the anathemas from the Council of Trent do not apply to Lutherans and the Lutherans said the condemnations of the RCC in their confessions do not apply to Catholics any longer. Now, not every Lutheran group signed this accord, but it is incredibly significant considering Martin Luther and the Reformation. (http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/documents/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_31101999_cath-luth-joint-declaration_en.html)
(I have three short paragraphs I would like to read now and it is important to notice what they don’t say and also what is slipped in and glossed over).
“Together we confess: By grace alone, in faith in Christ's saving work and not because of any merit on our part, we are accepted by God and receive the Holy Spirit, who renews our hearts while equipping and calling us to good works. (Does not say faith alone, however.)
Faith is itself God's gift through the Holy Spirit who works through word and SACRAMENT in the community of believers and who, at the same time, leads believers into that renewal of life which God will bring to completion in eternal life. (But, we know faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
According to Lutheran understanding, God justifies sinners in faith alone (sola fide)… The Catholic understanding also sees faith as fundamental in justification. For without faith, no justification can take place. Persons are justified through BAPTISM as hearers of the word and believers in it.” (Catholics would have everyone believe they believe in justification by faith now just like those in the Christian denominations. However, it is obvious from these statements that they are just trying to say enough of the right words to convince people of this without really meaning it. Additionally, the declarations and anathemas of the Council of Trent have never been revoked. The Council of Trent lasted from 1545-1563 and it was the most important movement of the Catholic Counter-Reformation, the Catholic Church’s first significant reply to the growing Protestant Reformation. The primary purpose of the council was to condemn and refute the beliefs of the Protestants. Several anathemas, or curses, were pronounced against those believing in justification by faith alone. For example, Canon 24 says: "If any one saith, that the justice received is not preserved and also increased before God through good works; but that the said works are merely the fruits and signs of Justification obtained, but not a cause of the increase thereof; let him be anathema." And, rather than being revoked, the decrees of the Council of Trent are confirmed by both the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965) and the official “Catechism of the Catholic Church” (1992).
Then in July 0f 2006, members of the World Methodist Council adopted this same joint declaration. They stated, “We, the Churches joined together in the World Methodist Council, welcome this agreement with great joy. We declare that the common understanding of justification as it is outlined in the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification corresponds to Methodist doctrine.”
As an addition to these discussion notes, the World Communion of Reformed Churches (WCRC) signed an association agreement to the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification on July 5 of this year (https://rca.org/news/wcrc-affirms-joint-declaration-doctrine-justification)
“In the JDDJ, the LWF and the Roman Catholic Church acknowledge their common ground with regard to the doctrine of justification and affirm “that the remaining differences … are no longer the occasion for doctrinal condemnations.” The association agreement signed by the WCRC affirms the JDDJ and identifies distinctive Reformed contributions to the understanding of justification. “We’ve seen that what brings us together greatly outweighs what keeps us apart,” says Monica Schaap Pierce, ecumenical associate for the RCA.
The Manhattan Declaration -
This document was signed in 2009 by Catholics, Orthodox, and many evangelicals. It affirms the sanctity of life and traditional marriage, which are, of course, good things. No argument there. But, again true believers should be witnessing to Catholics, not signing accords with them. Some of the more well-recognized names of evangelicals who signed are: Tony Perkins, James Dobson, Al Mohler, Chuck Swindoll, Chuck Colson, Jim Daly, Jack Graham, Jonathan Falwell, Ravi Zacharias, and Don Wildmon.
Now, I want to mention something called the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity -(http://www.oikoumene.org/en/resources/week-of-prayer )
This information is from the World Council of Churches website and their mandate is, “A worldwide fellowship of churches seeking unity, a common witness and Christian service.” The following concerns the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity:
“At least once a year, Christians are reminded of Jesus’ prayer for his disciples that “they may be one so that the world may believe” (see John 17:21). Hearts are touched and Christians come together to pray for their unity. Congregations and parishes all over the world exchange preachers or arrange special ecumenical celebrations and prayer services. The event that touches off this special experience is the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity. Traditionally the week of prayer is celebrated between 18-25 January, between the feasts of St Peter and St Paul. The basic liturgical text on a biblical theme is jointly published by the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity and the World Council of Churches. This year’s theme is "Reconciliation – the love of Christ compels us." (Considering this is the 500th anniversary of the Reformation I don’t think this theme of “reconciliation” is a coincidence.)
And, the last item is the Pope’s address to the Pontifical Council in Nov. 2016 -
The following information is from this link: (https://zenit.org/articles/popes-address-to-pontifical-council-for-promoting-christian-unity-2/)
“First of all, unity is not the fruit of our human efforts or the product built by ecclesiastical diplomacy, but it is a gift that comes from on high. We men are not able to achieve unity by ourselves, nor can we discern the ways and times. What, then, is our role? What must we do to promote Christian unity? (Okay, he just said it isn’t the fruit of our human effort and then he asks what must we do?)
He continues: “In the second place, unity is not uniformity. The different theological, liturgical, spiritual and canonical differences, which have developed in the Christian world, when they are genuinely rooted in the Apostolic Tradition, are a richness and not a threat to the unity of the Church.” (So, this is a way to get different groups to say, “Well, it’s okay to join up because we can retain our individuality).
Continuing: “Finally, unity is not absorption. Christian unity does not imply an ecumenism ‘in reverse,’ by which some might deny their own history of faith; nor does it tolerate proselytism, which is, rather, a poison for the ecumenical path. (We would, of course, say proselytism of Catholics is something that is desperately needed). We Christians can recognize ourselves as brothers and sisters who believe in the one Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, committed together to seek the way to obey today the Word of God that wills us united. Ecumenism is true when it is able to move our attention away from ourselves, from our argumentations and formulations, to the Word of God which exacts being listened to, received and witnessed in the world. Therefore, the various Christian communities are called not to “concur,” but to collaborate. (Well, that sounds all nicey-nice, but it is actually deadly because it absolutely ignores the biblical commands to remain separate found in 2 Cor. 6:14-17 and elsewhere).
READING TIME: 18 MINUTES
The following are the notes to the discussion found at this link (https://www.facebook.com/tammy.cheetham.77/videos/vb.100014691523242/189880208178362/?type=3&thea) for anyone who would like to study the subject more in depth:
Very often today when we read articles concerning Catholics they are referred to as Christians. Catholicism is often considered to merely be another denomination of Christianity. But, we clearly and emphatically want to state that Catholicism is a false, pagan, Babylonian religious system based on the traditions of men. In stating this we want to make it clear we are not against Catholics, but against the system of Catholicism. Catholics have the following beliefs that are not mentioned in the New Testament: the papacy, worship/adoration of Mary (the immaculate conception of Mary, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the assumption of Mary, Mary as co-redemptrix and mediatrix), petitioning saints in heaven for their prayers, apostolic succession, the ordinances of the church functioning as sacraments, infant baptism, confession of sin to a priest, or the office of priest at all, purgatory, indulgences, or the equal authority of church tradition and Scripture. So, we can see these are beliefs which form a completely different religious system.
In light of these different beliefs in Christianity and Catholicism it has been odd to watch so many leaders of major ministries and churches flock to Rome to visit the pope within the last three years. We’ve seen Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, James Robison, John Arnott, and Louie Giglio to name the main ones. And, we are being conditioned to see Catholics appear on stage at NAR events, and also with evangelicals. It’s all becoming a huge religious melting pot. For example, we have seen the inclusion of a Catholic track at Mike Bickle’s IHOP OneThing conference for the past two years. At this event last December , Matt Maher, a popular worship leader who is Catholic, stated the following: “My wife, Kristin; she’s not Catholic. We go to two churches on Sunday when I’m in town. We go to a non-denominational church in the morning and then I go to mass. We’re registering our kids, they’re gonna go to Catholic school. We’re gonna raise our kids Catholic. We’re trying to figure all this out. It’s like a whole new reality.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVmJhb0UuF4&list=PL4S19ubs2BxdgP4XrvSUWHVuTe4tM-LI7&index=7 (at the 49:20 mark)
(And, we can say this whole new reality has just slipped in under the radar and most people are not paying attention. We have to say such a melding is not possible because of the differences of beliefs. You, know we’ve seen two political figures, and I am sure there are more, who have referred to themselves as evangelical Catholics. One is Vice-President Mike Pence (http://religionnews.com/2016/07/14/5-faith-facts-on-mike-pence-a-born-again-evangelical-catholic/) and the other is former Governor of Louisiana, Bobby Jindal (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bobby-jindal-raised-hindu-uses-christian-conversion-to-woo-gop-base-for-2016-run/2014/05/12/c446fa34-d989-11e3-8009-71de85b9c527_story.html?utm_term=.4cdd6accc8bd) .
At the Azusa 2016 event which was held in April of last year, we saw Matteo Calisi, Catholic leader and founder of United in Christ, an organization that strives for ecumenism between Christians and Catholics, kiss the feet of Lou Engle. Lou Engle is a major NAR player and leader of The Call. Then, Lou Engle kissed Calisi’s feet in an act of reconciliation between Christians and Catholics. (https://www.christiantoday.com/article/christian.evangelist.lou.engle.catholic.leader.matteo.calisi.kiss.each.others.foot.in.symbolic.act.of.reconciliation/83722.htm)
Engle had specifically invited Catholics as we can tell by the words he spoke in a promotional video: “We just want to welcome our Catholic brothers and sisters from the Archdiocese of Los Angeles to gather together to pray. Come join your brothers and sisters at the Memorial Coliseum believing for a move of unity and an outpouring of the Holy Spirit.” (http://christiannews.net/2016/04/10/lou-engle-of-the-call-prostrates-himself-kisses-foot-of-catholic-leader-as-act-of-reconciliation/)
Then, at Together 2016, held last July at the National Mall in Washington, DC, we see another example of Matt Maher leading worship at an ecumenical event. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pc2aPsDbU4)
Lou Engle and Matteo Calisi also made an appearance at this event. Calisi had this to say, “When Catholics, evangelicals, and Pentecostals worship together, our differences don’t go up to heaven. We’re one in Christ. When we announce the name of Jesus, that He is the one Lord and Savior, we are attracted to unity. And we, even Catholics, have come to bring this testimony.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhIE87wKk0E (at the 13:39 mark)
Now, I would to discuss some of the activities and accords that have brought us to this place where evangelicals and Catholics and others feel so free to associate. There were ecumenical teachings and meetings before this time, but I would like to start with Vatican II.
Vatican II
According to the Britannica Encyclopedia, the Second Vatican Council, which was held from 1962–65, was announced by Pope John XXIII, as a means of spiritual renewal for the church and as an occasion for Christians separated from Rome to join in search for reunion. There were sixteen documents written at this council and the second one is entitled “Decree on Ecumenism.” (http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html)
This decree on ecumenism states in the introduction that, “In recent times more than ever before, the Lord has been rousing divided Christians to remorse over their divisions and to a longing for unity. Everywhere large numbers have felt the impulse of this grace, and among our separated brethren also there increases from day to day the movement, fostered by the grace of the Holy Spirit, for the restoration of unity among all Christians. This movement toward unity is called "ecumenical." Those belong to it who invoke the Triune God and confess Jesus as Lord and Savior, doing this not merely as individuals but also as corporate bodies.” (Here we see those who say they confess Jesus as Lord and Savior, but the beliefs and practices they have added mean they believe and present another Jesus and another gospel).
This decree goes on to state: “The results will be that, little by little, as the obstacles to perfect ecclesiastical communion are overcome, ALL CHRISTIANS WILL BE GATHERED IN A COMMON CELEBRATION OF THE EUCHARIST, INTO THE UNITY OF THE ONE AND ONLY CHURCH, which Christ bestowed on his Church from the beginning.” (This is obviously a statement straight from Satan’s playbook because true believers will not celebrate the mass and the Catholic Church is not the one and only true church. True believers do not accept transubstantiation and never will.)
The Decree told Roman Catholics in clear and unambiguous terms: “In certain special circumstances, such as in prayer services for unity and during ecumenical gatherings, it is allowable, indeed desirable, that Catholics should join in prayer with their separated brethren. Such prayers in common are certainly a very effective means of petitioning for the grace of unity, and they are a genuine expression of the ties which even now bind Catholics to their separated brethren.” (You know, it is only since Vatican II that those who are not Catholic have been referred to as separated brethren. Instead of unleashing the horrors of the Spanish Inquisition, the Catholic Church is now using diplomacy and playing nice in an attempt to influence people to return to Rome. And, the evangelicals are aiding this plan. For example, a man named Tom Peterson wrote a book called “Catholics Come Home.” Well, Rick Warren has endorsed this book and appeared in a promotional video for it. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=duJxlbDnLXI) Of course, that shouldn’t surprise us seeing he referred to Pope Francis as “our pope” when he was being interviewed by Raymond Arroyo for a program on EWTN (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igNCUw1adIw).
Now, I would like to talk about a group called the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity. The origins of this group are associated with the Second Vatican Council which met intermittently from 1962–1965 as I already mentioned. Pope John XXIII wanted the Catholic Church to engage in the contemporary ecumenical movement so he established something called the "Secretariat for Promoting Christian Unity" in June of 1960 as one of the preparatory commissions for Vatican II. The Secretariat invited other Churches and World Communions to send observers to Vatican II. In June of 1988 Pope John Paul II changed the Secretariat into the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity.
This Council has a twofold role:
The promotion within the Catholic Church of an authentic ecumenical spirit.
To develop dialogue and collaboration with the other Churches and World Communions.
(So, anytime we see ecumenical activity involving Catholics, this group has been involved. The following links have descriptions concerning the Pontifical council’s work with other major church groups. (http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/index.htm) (http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/angl-comm-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_19660324_paul-vi-ramsey_en.html)
The following information concerns discussions between Anglicans and Catholics -
Here is an excerpt from the Common Declaration by Pope Paul VI and the Archbishop of Canterbury Dr. Michael Ramsey from March of 1966. “At the conclusion of their meeting they give thanks to Almighty God Who by the action of the Holy Spirit has in these latter years created a new atmosphere of Christian fellowship between the Roman Catholic Church and the Churches of the Anglican Communion. This encounter of the 23rd of March 1966 marks a new stage in the development of fraternal relations, based upon Christian charity, and of sincere efforts to remove the causes of conflict and to re-establish unity.” (http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/angl-comm-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_20161005_dichiarazione-comune_en.html)
And, this is the COMMON DECLARATION OF HIS HOLINESS POPE FRANCIS AND HIS GRACE JUSTIN WELBY ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY from Oct. 2016:
“Fifty years ago our predecessors recognized the ‘serious obstacles’ that stood in the way of a restoration of complete faith and sacramental life between us. Nevertheless, they set out undeterred, not knowing what steps could be taken along the way, but in fidelity to the Lord’s prayer that his disciples be one. Much progress has been made concerning many areas that have kept us apart. Yet new circumstances have presented new disagreements among us, particularly regarding the ordination of women and more recent questions regarding human sexuality. Behind these differences lies a perennial question about how authority is exercised in the Christian community. These are today some of the concerns that constitute serious obstacles to our full unity. While, like our predecessors, we ourselves do not yet see solutions to the obstacles before us, we are undeterred. We trust in God’s grace and providence, knowing that the Holy Spirit will open new doors and lead us into all truth (cf. John 16: 13).
These differences we have named cannot prevent us from recognizing one another as brothers and sisters in Christ by reason of our common baptism. Nor should they ever hold us back from discovering and rejoicing in the deep Christian faith and holiness we find within each other’s traditions. These differences must not lead to a lessening of our ecumenical endeavours.” (And, by all indications there has not been a lessening of these endeavors at all. Earlier this year Nicky Gumbel, an Anglican priest and administrator of the Alpha Course (itself extremely ecumenical) hosted an ecumenical conference. Here were some of the speakers: Luis Tagle, Catholic archbishop of the Philippines; Jean Vanier, Catholic philosopher, theologian, and humanitarian; Father James, Parish Priest of Saint Benedict Parish, in Canada, and the Founder of JPII Media - a Christian media charity; one of the worship leaders was Matt Maher, mentioned earlier in the discussion. In addition, Mark Batterson, author of The Circle Maker, Priscilla Shirer who starred in War Room and has been involved in contemplative prayer, and John Gray, associate pastor of Joel Osteen’s church all spoke, showing how easily people join up in these ecumenical conferences and events).
Now I would like to discuss a document called Evangelicals and Catholics Together: The Christian Mission in the Third Millennium, published in 1994, and endorsed by some rather prominent representatives of Evangelical Christianity and Roman Catholicism. Here are some of the more well-recognized names of those who signed this document: Chuck Colson of Prison Fellowship Ministries; Bill Bright of Campus Crusade for Christ; and Pat Robertson of the 700 Club. Some of the statements from the document are as follows: “We are Evangelical Protestants and Roman Catholics who have been led through prayer, study, and discussion to common convictions about Christian faith and mission.” “As Christ is one, so the Christian mission is one.” “We together, Evangelicals and Catholics, confess our sins against the unity that Christ intends for all his disciples.” “We affirm together that we are justified by grace through faith because of Christ.” (Now that last statement has been celebrated as a remarkable concession on the part of the Catholic’s, but the real issue under debate between Roman Catholicism and historic evangelicalism which is justification by faith ALONE—is carefully avoided throughout “Evangelicals and Catholics Together.” If they really believed in justification by grace through faith alone they would dispense with all their sacraments, and they certainly have not done that.)
Much of the document focuses on “the right ordering of society”. The longest section, “We Contend Together,” states that “politics, law, and culture must be secured by moral truth”. Therefore the catalog of issues which the document’s signers “contend together” for is made up of religious freedom, right-to-life issues, moral education, parental choice in education, a free-market economy, pro-family legislation, and a responsible foreign policy. (Using social and moral issues as common ground to promote unity, the Vatican believes this ecumenical dialogue will prepare the way for "separated brethren" to return to the "one true church." But, I would have to ask, since when have Christians been called to focus so much time and energy renewing their culture?)
And, then concerning the 20th anniversary of this accord I found this statement by one of the signers, Tom Guarino, professor of theology at Seton Hall University. He made the following troubling remarks: ‘Evangelicals and Catholics’ have deepened our identity as brothers in Christ, discovering, despite our theological differences, important patterns of similarity and union in our fundamental Christian beliefs." On the future of ECT, he wrote: "Proclaiming the gospel in a society that has forgotten its moral foundations will continue to be a significant task of Evangelicals and Catholics Together." He added, "If contemporary culture is to be renewed, it must be led by Evangelicals and Catholics, with their firm commitment to the truth of the gospel." (The truth of the gospel? Really? You know, as with Mormonism, Catholicism also adds to the simplicity of the gospel to such a degree that one truly sees another Jesus, another gospel, and another spirit. There is so much paganism, so much idol worship, but we have evangelicals just totally overlooking these aspects of Catholicism).
Joint Declaration
Now I want to mention another accord called the “Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification.” In this document, signed in 1999, Catholics said the anathemas from the Council of Trent do not apply to Lutherans and the Lutherans said the condemnations of the RCC in their confessions do not apply to Catholics any longer. Now, not every Lutheran group signed this accord, but it is incredibly significant considering Martin Luther and the Reformation. (http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/documents/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_31101999_cath-luth-joint-declaration_en.html)
(I have three short paragraphs I would like to read now and it is important to notice what they don’t say and also what is slipped in and glossed over).
“Together we confess: By grace alone, in faith in Christ's saving work and not because of any merit on our part, we are accepted by God and receive the Holy Spirit, who renews our hearts while equipping and calling us to good works. (Does not say faith alone, however.)
Faith is itself God's gift through the Holy Spirit who works through word and SACRAMENT in the community of believers and who, at the same time, leads believers into that renewal of life which God will bring to completion in eternal life. (But, we know faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
According to Lutheran understanding, God justifies sinners in faith alone (sola fide)… The Catholic understanding also sees faith as fundamental in justification. For without faith, no justification can take place. Persons are justified through BAPTISM as hearers of the word and believers in it.” (Catholics would have everyone believe they believe in justification by faith now just like those in the Christian denominations. However, it is obvious from these statements that they are just trying to say enough of the right words to convince people of this without really meaning it. Additionally, the declarations and anathemas of the Council of Trent have never been revoked. The Council of Trent lasted from 1545-1563 and it was the most important movement of the Catholic Counter-Reformation, the Catholic Church’s first significant reply to the growing Protestant Reformation. The primary purpose of the council was to condemn and refute the beliefs of the Protestants. Several anathemas, or curses, were pronounced against those believing in justification by faith alone. For example, Canon 24 says: "If any one saith, that the justice received is not preserved and also increased before God through good works; but that the said works are merely the fruits and signs of Justification obtained, but not a cause of the increase thereof; let him be anathema." And, rather than being revoked, the decrees of the Council of Trent are confirmed by both the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965) and the official “Catechism of the Catholic Church” (1992).
Then in July 0f 2006, members of the World Methodist Council adopted this same joint declaration. They stated, “We, the Churches joined together in the World Methodist Council, welcome this agreement with great joy. We declare that the common understanding of justification as it is outlined in the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification corresponds to Methodist doctrine.”
As an addition to these discussion notes, the World Communion of Reformed Churches (WCRC) signed an association agreement to the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification on July 5 of this year (https://rca.org/news/wcrc-affirms-joint-declaration-doctrine-justification)
“In the JDDJ, the LWF and the Roman Catholic Church acknowledge their common ground with regard to the doctrine of justification and affirm “that the remaining differences … are no longer the occasion for doctrinal condemnations.” The association agreement signed by the WCRC affirms the JDDJ and identifies distinctive Reformed contributions to the understanding of justification. “We’ve seen that what brings us together greatly outweighs what keeps us apart,” says Monica Schaap Pierce, ecumenical associate for the RCA.
The Manhattan Declaration -
This document was signed in 2009 by Catholics, Orthodox, and many evangelicals. It affirms the sanctity of life and traditional marriage, which are, of course, good things. No argument there. But, again true believers should be witnessing to Catholics, not signing accords with them. Some of the more well-recognized names of evangelicals who signed are: Tony Perkins, James Dobson, Al Mohler, Chuck Swindoll, Chuck Colson, Jim Daly, Jack Graham, Jonathan Falwell, Ravi Zacharias, and Don Wildmon.
Now, I want to mention something called the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity -(http://www.oikoumene.org/en/resources/week-of-prayer )
This information is from the World Council of Churches website and their mandate is, “A worldwide fellowship of churches seeking unity, a common witness and Christian service.” The following concerns the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity:
“At least once a year, Christians are reminded of Jesus’ prayer for his disciples that “they may be one so that the world may believe” (see John 17:21). Hearts are touched and Christians come together to pray for their unity. Congregations and parishes all over the world exchange preachers or arrange special ecumenical celebrations and prayer services. The event that touches off this special experience is the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity. Traditionally the week of prayer is celebrated between 18-25 January, between the feasts of St Peter and St Paul. The basic liturgical text on a biblical theme is jointly published by the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity and the World Council of Churches. This year’s theme is "Reconciliation – the love of Christ compels us." (Considering this is the 500th anniversary of the Reformation I don’t think this theme of “reconciliation” is a coincidence.)
And, the last item is the Pope’s address to the Pontifical Council in Nov. 2016 -
The following information is from this link: (https://zenit.org/articles/popes-address-to-pontifical-council-for-promoting-christian-unity-2/)
“First of all, unity is not the fruit of our human efforts or the product built by ecclesiastical diplomacy, but it is a gift that comes from on high. We men are not able to achieve unity by ourselves, nor can we discern the ways and times. What, then, is our role? What must we do to promote Christian unity? (Okay, he just said it isn’t the fruit of our human effort and then he asks what must we do?)
He continues: “In the second place, unity is not uniformity. The different theological, liturgical, spiritual and canonical differences, which have developed in the Christian world, when they are genuinely rooted in the Apostolic Tradition, are a richness and not a threat to the unity of the Church.” (So, this is a way to get different groups to say, “Well, it’s okay to join up because we can retain our individuality).
Continuing: “Finally, unity is not absorption. Christian unity does not imply an ecumenism ‘in reverse,’ by which some might deny their own history of faith; nor does it tolerate proselytism, which is, rather, a poison for the ecumenical path. (We would, of course, say proselytism of Catholics is something that is desperately needed). We Christians can recognize ourselves as brothers and sisters who believe in the one Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, committed together to seek the way to obey today the Word of God that wills us united. Ecumenism is true when it is able to move our attention away from ourselves, from our argumentations and formulations, to the Word of God which exacts being listened to, received and witnessed in the world. Therefore, the various Christian communities are called not to “concur,” but to collaborate. (Well, that sounds all nicey-nice, but it is actually deadly because it absolutely ignores the biblical commands to remain separate found in 2 Cor. 6:14-17 and elsewhere).